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Reviews for Onno Gas Pedal/Footbar


Rated: 9.75/10 Based On: 4 Reviews

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07-07-2010
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Rating: 10 of 10

     I purchased the ONNO footbar only since my Warren Little Wing does not have a rudder. I concur with the previous reviewers that Pat's products are both beautiful and functional. Pat also gives quick service as my footbar arrived at my door several days after I had ordered it.
Installation was very quick and easy.

The following is from a note that I sent to Pat right after I installed and tested the footbar:
"To paraphrase the words of the immortal Dr. King, 'Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty, I'm (at least my knees and thighs are) free at last!' I installed the footbar on the Keepers (for now, as I just got the Yakimas and could not wait) pegs and rails, and tried out the set-up today. The foobar must be the single biggest improvement I could make to my kayak. I am getting a lot more torso rotation and power in my stroke, and am traveling faster in the water. Thanks for making a great product and the quick delivery. My legs to do not get cramped as the did previously since I can move my feet to various positions."

In my opinion, every touring kayak should come standard with a footbar/board as they are much more comfortable than footpegs.

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07-24-2009
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Rating: 9 of 10

     When I purchased my WSBS Thunderbolt used from a fellow racer, it came equipped with the tiller bar system that I believe is standard on these boats, along with an ineffective over-stern rudder. In another review, I discuss changing my rudder to the Onno P-41, but along with the change in rudder I swapped out the tiller bar system for Pat's carbon foot-bar/rudder pedal system.

I've paddled several boats with tiller-bar steering systems, and I've always thought they leave a lot to be desired. Most racing boats are narrow, and with my wide feet I don't have much room to maneuver a tiller bar - especially when the weather turns cold and I start wearing my river boots. I also don't care for the need to move my feet when I'm pushing hard in a race. I am used to gas-pedal systems in my sea kayaks, and it feels far more natural to me in my racing boat as well.

Pat's pedal system is well engineered, beautifully made, and very solid, with something of a custom touch. The rails on the Thunderbolt taper in as they go forward on the inside of the hull, so Pat asked me to provide hole-to-hole measurements at my foot bar location to provide him with hole drilling locations on his unit. The holes have a loose enough fit that the unit can move a few holes forward or backward to get the distance set correctly.

The Onno rudder pedal/foot board system drops in place, but it's still a challenge to get it into the hull of the Thunderbolt. The T-bolt hull is small enough that the system takes up most of the room, so it takes a little creativity to get to the bolts and wing nuts used to install the system onto the rails (the holes are on the cross bar, behind the foot board). It's not a system I would move around if it's not necessary, but I was pleased that it matched up well with the stock hardware. The small foot area of the T-bolt presented me with one other small challenge - the pedals wanted to scrape the hull as they moved back and forth. A little filing on the edge of the pedals took care of that situation.

As it comes, the foot pedals on the system are held in place by the tension of the rudder cables, but they can flop towards the cockpit when your feet aren't against the pedals. To keep the pedals in position, I attached one end of a small bungee cord to the top of each pedal and attached the loose end of each cord to the forward most hole in each respective side rail. This worked quite well, keeping the pedals taught against the rudder cables to keep them in position. I joined my rudder cables to the cords supplied with the Onno rudder pedal system by means of cord ratchets, making pedal/rudder adjustments extremely easy, even on the fly.

After installing the Onno foot pedal unit (and P-41 rudder), my boat was a whole new animal. It became easy to guide with my toes while at the same time delivering maximum power to the foot board with my legs, allowing me to focus on performance instead of trying to tame the boat. I'm very pleased with the Onno system.

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10-22-2008
Submitted by: MGBSend Email
Rating: 10 of 10

     I installed the gas pedal/footbar into my Seda Glider. The carbon bar is fixed to the pedals of a Yakima track, and the Yakima footpegs are adjusted fore/aft to adjust the bar position. The kevlar lines from the rudder are fixed to the top of the gas pedals on the outboard corners in a simple series of holes that bind the line as it weaves through several holes. Pat supplied longer bolts for the aft end of the track, and you use them to set the tracks to be perfectly parallel, letting the bar move all the way forward or aft as needed. I installed the whole thing in about two hours. I ordered extra line so there is one continuous piece going back to the rudder.

Installation instructions are very clear and simple. I can now paddle with legs centered. The surface is grippy, but still looks smooth and has that cool carbon look. With size 9 shoes, I feel like there is a good balance between the lower fixed bar where I push, and the upper gas pedal where I steer. The system is simple and strong. It worked fine in the choppy windy conditions in last weekend's Mayors Cup in NYC.

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01-12-2007
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Rating: 10 of 10

     As the fairly new owner of a Westside EFT, and tiller bar 'virgin', I found I love the boat but have had less than positive experiences with the stock tiller bar arrangement-Ihad grown used to the Toe Pilot arrangement (hating certain aspects of the design, namely breaking rails and lack of foot positions) in my sea kayaks, and the footpedal arrangement in my surf ski. With my size 12s, 'tiptoeing' the wooden tiller bar one side to another became a royal PITA, particularly in chop, and especially with heavier winter booties on. The tiller also had an annoying tendency to flop from one side to another when entering/exiting the boat, which proved a liability in races with portages. While many do just fine with tiller steering, the slippery and minimal round rod footbrace and wooden peg arrangement left something to be desired for me. The narrow bar hurt my feet with thin-soled booties on, and I found I was always paddling with knees clipped together, tiller pinched between my toes, so I could nudge it one way or another for minor corrections.

Enter Pat at Onnopaddles. I had purchased a seat from him for my QCC, and was incredibly impressed with his enthusiasm, professionalism, and design and building expertise. His reputation is well-noted on these boards and in the paddling world at large, and for good reason-what he makes works, and he spends the time with his customers to assure that it does.

Purchased the carbon fiber gas pedal/footbrace system from him and installed it in the EFT. The wide, flat carbon footbrace is a thing of beauty, and superbly executed-the matching gas pedals for rudder actuation pivot easily on hinges at the top and incorporate a series of rudder line holes that secure the kevlar cord, making adjustments in line tension and pedal position a snap. Each pedal adjusts individually to the rudder, and there is no springback system-line tension provides this. The carbon surface has a matte finish that encourages a secure foot position even when wet, unlike the slippery metal footbrace that came stock. The width of the brace allows an extremely positive and solid platform to push from, as well as a multitude of foot positions. Possibly the most positive aspect of this design is that it is extremely easy to actuate the rudder from any position on the footbrace-the stock setup required you slide your toes in to actuate-with this one you can place your legs wherever you'd like and still get to the controls. I look forward to trying the boat out now in some real conditions, as I'm sure this benefit will be particularly valuable in situations where you might need to brace against the coaming with your knees and work the rudder at the same time, surfing, for example.

Set up was fairly straightforward. Pat took measurements provided and drilled the carbon brackets for the brace position I specified, allowing for proper leg length. I modified the brackets somewhat, drilling additional holes, and slotting them out using a Dremel routing bit; allowing a range of adjustability in the event someone else borrows the boat, or the unlikely event that I sell it. If the position were to be changed, line tension and pedal position would have to readjusted; an easy enough task with the cable system used on the pedals. The brackets each secure to the footbrace using four stainless bolts and nylon locking nuts-very strong and solid. The entire setup 'drops in' to the stock drilled 'L' brackets glassed to the hull, using the two bolts and wingnuts provided with the stock footbar. Simple.

Pat uses kevlar cord from the pedals. For ease of hookup without swapping out lengths of line and changing over the entire cable system, I mated the stainless cable from the stock rudder to the cord using stainless thimbles and Brummel clips for quick disconnect, in case I ever need to work on the system or replace part of the line. The new mounting has the cable sit further out from the sides of the hull than the stock tiller bar arrangement, and after some thought (and recommendations from Pat), I settled upon a stainless eyestrap cable guide with a length of pvc tubing hot flared to a bell shape on both ends to smoothly guide the cable and prevent fraying-this bolted to the very last hole closest to the cockpit on the 'L' channel, and the cable/line travels smoothly slightly away from the hull contours. Recently I sourced out simple Spinlock guides that bolt with a single mount from one sailing accessory manufacturer that would do the same without additional fabrication. Note that this is not necessary-I simply preferred to see the line follow the contours of the hull as closely as possible.

Now for the good part: Paddling the boat has always been sheer joy-it's light, fast, and responsive (although the addition of a deeper rudder is I think needed-hmmm...P-41...). With the footbrace installed, I can pump my legs from any position on the footbrace and still easily toe the gas pedals for minute adjustments on the rudder. In buoy turns, a simple push swings the rudder through its range of motion, again, easily actuated from anywhere on the brace. It has all the ease of usage of systems like Toe Pilots with the added benefits of simplicity of design, strength and light weight of materials, AND the fact that you are no longer locked in to a splay legged stance (Sciatica...Sciatica), or toe wrestling a wooden peg. Surf ski paddlers will find this system comfortable and familiar, and all will find it intuitive-allowing you to focus on stroke and torso rotation from any bracing position on the bar. Well done Pat; he shoots, he scores yet again!

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