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However, once I was on the lake, the effort I was putting to paddling was significantly more than I was used to and was still finding it hard to keep up with my other kayak that by the way was being paddled by a total noob! So I gave it a rating of 7 since I found it to be durable, aesthetically a good match with my other and and a welcome addition to the family, but overall sluggish, less aerodynamic, and didn't compliment my experience. Any noobs are getting this one next trip out! LOL
Thinking of getting a Tempo as a backup, in case I wear the Pro out before I can't paddle anymore! Since I am 67, probably don't have to worry.
I have used this kayak for demonstrations at local new kayak free tryouts and each and every person liked my "antique" better then all of the new ones, yes it might not have the new gadgets but it it faster, more stable and more storage all rolled up into a kayak that still turns heads when I take my two 70 lb dogs with me. Oh yeah, for all of those naysayers that state you must be under 220lbs are delusional... I was once at 280lbs, 5'10 and am currently at 240lbs... that equals to over 400 lbs with my dogs and gear and have never even once tipped it.
Moved to Canada (BC) thanks to the Army and I went kayaking with my new friends out to the Indian Arm. They all had double kayaks (Canadian submarines as I call them) and my scupper pro was loaded to the max. Long story short, I had an easy paddle by myself, leading the pack of 6 double kayaks and received tons of looks! It cut through the wind and waters with ease. Plus we camped overnight and my yak served as a great cooler full of beers while all my fellow Canucks licked their lips in thirst.
my favorite yaks in order are:
1) Eddyline Raven my daily ride ... it's da bomb
2) Eddyline Merlin for tight areas or flat water
3) Perception Avatar for long distance where I'm on oysters and rocks lol
4) the Scuppers..... and we own 3 of um! great for company or just amateur night..;) they are the barn mares ...
The TW is great-not to big/not to small. While not the fastest it's narrow design makes maintaining good speed/glide easier than most boats in this length. Very comfortable for me but the seat width might be to tight for larger folks. Weight is less than others in this class which can be a real issue if you're alone.
Hard to believe Ocean discontinued this one for the second time. I guess the sales just weren't there or they want to push the 15' Prowlers. Anyway the good news is RTM now holds the rights on this one and are selling it as the Tempo. Though I now paddle the Prowler 13 Angler because the shorter length is easier to live with this is still a great boat.
I believe, as previously reviewers have stated, it could be a good kayak to add to your work-out arsenal if you are 220 or less. However, depending on your inseam, you could easily be 6'6" and fit this boat.
I am 5'10" 220 pounds and have been paddling for 7 years. I immediately took the Scupper Pro out for a paddle and found out, YES! this boat is very tipsy and would be a great boat for flat water and long distance trips with NO wind or chop. On the ocean this boat follows the current and requires a tremendous amount of work. It follows a straight line to a fault. Without a full head of steam and a rudder, it will not turn. Any wind at all and your off like a plastic bag in a parking lot. I would not suggest fishing on this boat.
If you want this boat, Rent it first. If you are used to paddling a long touring kayak, this may be a great kayak. If you want to have fun for 5 or 6 hour in the ocean, NO. We all spent the rest of the day taking turns enjoying the Scrambler.
Anyway, I live just north of Chicago on Lake Michigan and have a 2000 model SP Pro Tankwell which I bought (as a sit on top) to handle both surf and offshore conditions in both warm and cold weather. To beat the small craft advisory for tonight, I took my usual quick-four-mile paddle this afternoon. Check NOAA, look at the water, leave upwind, return downwind, business as usual. I am careful. Also, I am careful. Usually, two-miles-and-return takes one to one-and-one-quarter hours depending on the wind.
A different story today, though. It was not the wind (I did expect 20-25 kts), it was the gusts that pushed the boat around 500 yds offshore. On the water I thought 'this is gusting 30 kts' but when I checked the NOAA station data just now (sta chii2) I see 35-40 kt gust data. Bottom line, on my return I had to move closer inshore than usual because the offshore wind was just too much. Needed lots of concentration, plus bracing to leeward!
Today, the yak stayed stable and under control. It needed more paddle effort and attention than usual. There really is a great benefit to a great hull. The hull, the hull, the hull. (What's that saying about 'location' in real estate?) That lovely stiff Scupper Pro hull is why I'm writing this review.
It astounds me to see weak hulls with multiple hatches and bulkheads on current polyethylene sit-in kayaks of 12 to 15 feet. I look at yaks racked for the summer where I launch, and I see brand-name hulls deformed at bulkheads. I really think that some yak designs are now created from the deck down, not the hull up.
Here is some free advice. First, get a good hull (be safe, control the boat). Second, set up your seat (or cockpit) to be comfortable for hours (see what yak fits you). Third, paddle and paddle and paddle (and get a good paddle for pete's sake!).
And regarding the hatch on this yak, I have only needed to touch up the trimlok-gasket-interface with a very little bit of devcon rubber adhesive on this old boat. (Haven't needed yet to replace, but it looks like Austin Kayak has ok trimloc in stock.) Remember that every hatch needs attention. Do you pay attention to oil changes in your car? Clean your boat regularly, and check hatches and seat and flotation and deck rigging when you clean!
The cockpit does seat me a little low but a 2 inch foam pad helped that out. The tankwell is perfect for a cooler or bait tank. The Hatch is big and roomy and the seal may be weak as other reviewers describe but so far I haven't capsized. Its a stable seaworthy craft. The previous owner mounted some rod holders but that was the only modification. If you are in the market for a used boat keep an eye out for the SPTW it's a gem.
Apparently, reviews also mention that this model is also one of the best option if you want to try using a kayak sail... a little challenge w/o the rudder in my case but worth the test.
Hatch gaskets need work- true. Tacking may be a problem initially-true as well. I believe this boat is pretty sensitive (good thing) and will accentuate the faults in your stroke. I have corrected my stroke and do not have problems. Paddling out in moderate surf was a blast. The boat blasts into and over whitewater, and will climb the face of unbroken waves!
Surfing this yak reminds me of my days longboarding. Catching swells easily, getting from place to place in surf doesn't have to be difficult. On flat water I can stand up in my yak, as the 14'9 size lends stability. Speed seems to be on par or SLIGHTLY faster than other SOT ive paddled. Don’t expect a rocket- it is just a giant piece of plastic after all. TW space is perfect for storage.
I enjoy the SP's deep seat- almost lends a sit in feel instead of a Sit on top feel. I think a nice backrest is a must for longer trips. I went 20 miles one day and can tell you that I was in pain w/o a seat/ backrest. Add to that - this boat is bulky to carry, and doesn't seem to have an EASY way to carry, kinda feels like the weight shifts around on me.
OVERALL- If you find a deal on this boat, snatch it up. I do not foresee me EVER ditching mine if it keeps up its current level of performance
Boat waves and choppy water don't seem to rattle this boat at all. I have had other sit-on-tops in the past and always felt a little unsafe and tippy...so I really appreciate the speed and stability of this 14 footer. I like huge hatch and scuba tank holder...I haven't camped yet...but I have that option.
I want to thank Paddling.net and the other reviewers before me...great site and great reviews. I bought this baby after reading the other reviews and I'm very happy with my kayak.
What has surprised me is that my GPS confirmed the Scupper Pro paddles comfortably at speeds between 4 to 5 mph. That's very respectable for a "recreational" SOT that's just 14'9" long and 26" wide. I'm 6'1", 215lbs and the Scupper fits me great. The one item I'm adding is a backband to help me sit forward a bit. I've noticed, verified by other paddling friends, that the Scupper trims low in the stern, so moving forward one footwell position should correct that. I've also added side handles to make lifting its 55+ lbs onto the car rack easier.
Coming from 22" beam sit-ins, the Scupper Pro is rock solid stable, easily handling wave conditions that would require my attention in my other kayaks. It turns easily and tracks very well. On Lake Erie, because you're typically paddling along the shoreline, you have to deal constantly with quartering wind and waves. The Scupper Pro handles those conditions very well, with only occasional corrective strokes required. Again, that's WAY better than some sit-ins I've paddled. I'm also planning on paddling the Scupper in early and late season conditions when water temps require dressing for immersion. Wearing a drysuit, I'll just climb back on the Scupper Pro if I get dumped, minimizing the time I'm in hypothermic waters. Again, no need to spend time in frigid waters while I wet exit, deploy a paddle float, reentry, and pump out the sit-in. The Scupper Pro is a great boat at a great price. Most fun for the dollar I've had in a kayak yet. I'll bet if the Inuits had figured out how to build SOT's, everybody would be paddling one, instead of sit-ins.
The boat handles well, is reasonably fast and very stable. The boat has a few degrees of initial tippiness - this helps maneuverability - but it doesn't "keep going." I've attempted to turn the boat over by standing on it, but succeeded only in falling off. We have very flat water conditions, and have only used it in very light surf, so I can't vouch for how it handles big waves, but it's ideally suited to our conditions.
If you do a lot of fishing, and are over 6 feet or so, you may prefer a wider boat since the initial tippiness I mentioned could be distracting when casting. However, you would probably lose some speed and maneuverability with a wider boat, so there's a compromise to be made.
Only complaints: the hatches use a double seal, and the cylindrical part WILL detach from the part that holds it to the boat. I've just duct-taped them inside the hatches themselves, and this works pretty well. We stick the kid in the one of the hatches sometimes, so that shows you how critical they are in our usual conditions. Also, one of the rivets holding a strap to the hatch corroded and broke loose, but this was easily fixed.
One of the best products I've bought in the last 8 years.
There are two draw-backs to this boat: Firstly, it does not have a "child seat" where I could put my four year old girl. Secondly, it has no foam inside. i.e., if the hatch opens for some reason and water comes inside, there will be no reserve of flotability. I am working on it to better that.
The Ocean Kayak Scupper Pro TW (tankwell) is a quick, very well-tracking sit-on-top. It has a sizable hatches fore, and a depressed molded area aft (shaped to fit a dive tank, hence the name: tank well), a convenient cup holder between the paddlers knees, and a flat area which can be used for a small screw-on hatch.
It handles rather well in a constant chop of 1-2 foot seas, and in a quartering rear sea it doesn't need to be herded to keep on a straight track as much as smaller boats. My wife enjoyed it; she thought it paddled easily and quickly, and was only slightly less maneaverable than the Classic (9" shorter). It tracks very well, but does take just a wee a bit of work to turn without a rudder. I’m 6 feet tall and a very fit 205# with something of a wide beam (the family hipbones just CANNOT be narrowed!), and it fits me very nicely, and it fits my wife quite well, too. It would be an appropriate boat for doing an overnight river run, coastal ocean trip, and/or camping trip in it. Overall, we're both pleased, and score it as an 8 out of 10 (I almost never give 10s for ANYthing: that's perfection, and I've yet to find it in anything I've seen or experienced).
This kayak is in all probability the most versatile designed to date. It tracks well enough that you don't even need to bother with adding a rudder, it glides very nicely, it rides the waves well, and with the four cockpit scupper holes plugged...is a dry ride.
In addition, this kayak is a relatively safe way for a novice to get into kayaking. And, it's not just for beginners, as it is being used by the experts for extreme kayak fishing, long distance inshore and coastal touring, extended camping trips to offshore islands, diving, etc. Many of the folks who are using it to the extremes are posting their experiences on [www.kayakfishing.com], including myself...SaltyDog/Clearwater posting on the Florida BB.
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