Length: 17' 2" - Width: 23.00" - Starting at: $2599.99See More Details about this Kayak
I sent out an email about purchasing, and ordered the LT version with the lime/yellow fade. I also got the black seat and coaming, with a white hull. It really does look much better in person than what these pictures tell you online! Once I received it, I took it out as soon as the ice thawed off the lake, and this is where it all started going downhill. When I paddled, the boat had a strong enough pull to the left to the point I was just annoyed to paddle it. I tried different lakes, in calm wind and strong wind. I went out in choppy water and calm water. I got online and researched everything that could make a kayak do this, and tried correcting it. Nothing was working! The boat just wanted to drift left! I literally had to paddle a few extra stokes on the left every 5 or 6 complete revolutions to keep the kayak on course. As one who competes in races, this was not acceptable!
I got in touch with NC Kayaks several times about this issue, and was informed by the guy who actually built my boat as well as Doug that they would look into this, and find a solution to this problem. I guess I was blown off for a month or so. Maybe longer, I forget. I was irritated at this point, and figured I was stuck with this and started shopping for a new kayak, even though I was out the money I put into this. It wasn't until I off loaded the boat from the car one day. I flipped it upside down to clean it, and that is when I noticed what was causing this issue for so long! The funny thing is, my fiance noticed it at the same time as I did, and we just looked at each other and noticed the beam along the bottom of the boat was not straight! There may be a special word for this part of boat, but the beam (bottom of the hull) is responsible for the straight tracking. Towards the back of the boat, it had a curve to the left. I immediately grabbed my camera and took a picture.
I wrote a review on this site to state my experience with NC Kayaks. It was not a good one at all! I sent my picture to Doug, and hoped that maybe I would receive a response from him this time. In the mean time, I was contacted by a couple different guys from this site (paddling.net), and was asked about this, and if I wanted to post the review before discussing the issue with NC Kayaks. They, too, contacted Doug about this issue. I agreed to hold off on the review to see what happens.
Doug finally got back in touch with me. He apologized about not getting back to me, and said, "I guess I really dropped the ball on this one, I'm really sorry". I was just happy to hear something back from them. He said he could clearly see the issue in the picture, and the only fix to this was to send me another boat. The only thing is, I am responsible for shipping the boat back, which is going to cost me another $335 dollars, or so. I'm not happy about it, but I'm getting the problem corrected. The math just means I didn't get $1,000 off the kayak, but $665. Still, this is a great deal for what this boat has to offer.
I took delivery on the new boat today, and immediately took it out of the box and headed to the lake by my house to see how it performed. Night and Day! That is all I can say about this! It went straight! The box was not damaged, and the boat didn't have a scratch on it! I forgot to mention the first boat I received was scratched up from the freight company. The box was also damaged pretty good. The boat was still structurally sound, so I took it. God, it was an awful experience with that first boat! But as I said, the new boat arrived today, and I couldn't have been a happier guy!
I was dealing with Doug through this whole issue, and was very helpful! Anytime I emailed him about how the boat was coming along, about shipping the boat back, and any other questions. I got a prompt response back! I was notified when the boat shipped, and it took one week to get here (I'm in western Massachusetts). The company who delivered it this time was Land Air Express, and even that guy was great along with their dispatch! The first boat was last left with Sweeney Transportation out of Chicopee, MA, and I picked it up at the warehouse. So I hope that anyone in my area who buys one of these gets it delivered by Land Air! I am not sure if Sweeney was responsible for the damage, or the transportation company out in the Boston area was. Both were not very nice to deal with anyways when I tried tracking it. They also told me at one point that they lost an 18 foot long box.
Anyways, when all said and done, I got in the water with the new boat, and that boat was FAST, and it went STRAIGHT! They did an EXCELLENT job correcting this problem!!! Even though I have to pay return shipping on this first boat, I am still completely satisfied! I would rather complain about the return shipping for a week, than a boat that doesn't go straight for the rest of my time while owning it! True story!
Would I buy from them again? YES! Yes I would! I would recommend them as well! Their boats are fast! Their boats track well! Their boats look amazing! And, if you have a problem, they do fix it! Why would you not want to deal with a company like this?? They may have lost a little money on this, but a company who takes care of their customers is a company worth buying from!
And now the reason for the low rating. I called NC shortly after buying the boat to ask some questions about braces and to get a new gasket for the hatch. I e-mailed them, and called once or twice only getting their answering machine, and still have never received the courtesy of a return call.
It's been three years, but who's counting?
Boat gets a TEN, customer service – 0
Well, I'm definitely glad that I made the purchase. As for fit, I'm 5'8" and a solid 200lbs and the kayak fits me great! The boat tracks straight as advertised. It doesn't actually turn on a dime but that's not important to me right now. I have less than a year in paddling experience, yet I feel confident in it. At the same time, I feel that I'll be able to grow with the boat as does my experience and skill level.
I just love how light the kayak is and how I'm able to lift it over my head and onto the top of my car with ease! I also think it's one of the better looking boats available. As a matter of fact, when I picked up delivery of my kayak from the local trucking company, as I was unpacking it from the huge cardboard container, some of the workers on the loading dock even commented on how good looking it was! I would give it a 10 but my limited paddling experience prevents me from doing that.
I have a $4800.00+ full carbon boat that I love paddling a lot, but the NC Overnighter performs just as well and in some areas, a little better. Prior to the last review written, This is the first kayak that I know of that warranted a "10" by each of it's reviewers and for good reason. I'm not going to repeat everything that they mentioned making this kayak a plus-up, but everything written by the reviewers and the Manufacturers, have totally been proven to be perfectly correct in my estimation...Now this is just my opinion, now there may be others that differ.
Read the past reviews even the one prior to mine which was written by a relatively new to paddling person, they are all very, very good reviews.
RIGHT ON NC PADDLERS!!!
Since receiving the kayak (it came well protected in an enormous carton box) I have taken it to the local harbor 4 to 5 times after trying it out in the pool. I was impressed with the general workmanship and the fact that it came within a pound of the advertised weight. I have found only one minor problem, a water leak from the hatch cover which was solved by rotating the circular cover to a different position. I was somewhat surprised to find that the kayak had no knee braces as such nor any padding under the cockpit to protect the knees. That was fixed with some neoprene sheet, but I have seen other kayaks that have this nicely installed by the manufacturer. I am not sure about the seat yet, it is a hard molded unit without a flexible backrest — I did put some neoprene there as well, but have not paddled enough to determine if more will be required.
In the water the kayak feels a little bit tippy right around the "0" position, but only for perhaps 10 degrees or so. Beyond that it becomes increasingly resistant to rotation, I found in the pool that it takes quite some effort to put it on edge so that the flange is submerged. This, I hope, will translate into resistance toward capsizing at the slightest provocation. Paddling the kayak immediately reveals its desire to go straight---so much so, that it takes some effort to turn it. It is an interesting consequence of the design which I found intriguing in that the prismatic coefficient is very low, suggesting that the kayak will paddle easily at low to moderate speeds but may require some effort to reach hull speed. The rather long bow and stern sections are very narrow acting, in the language of a novice not familiar with nautical engineering terms, like skegs both in front and back. By putting the kayak on edge, the water line becomes significantly shorter, and at that point it should turn quite nicely---I just have not been able to do that reliably yet.
Yesterday I joined a group from a local paddling club for a New Year's Day outing in the harbor (Channel Island Harbor, Ventura, CA). I found I had no trouble keeping up with the group and, in fact, could keep up for a short while in a near-sprint with the fastest paddler, a very experienced kayaker in a Seda Glider. Since I am still developing basic elements of the forward stroke, I take that as a good sign.
I was reluctant to write a review at first because I felt that as a novice paddler I really could not evaluate the kayak meaningfully. However, perhaps there is value to the impressions of a beginner for all those who are considering taking up the sport and might be confused or misled by esoteric technical jargon. In the final analysis, I really look forward to learning to paddle this kayak with greater skill and mastery. I have signed up to take a comprehensive course in kayaking skills and am very excited to take my boat out into the open ocean. In the meantime, I can take pleasure in the fact that it paddles very nicely in the harbor and that it looks very pretty, a consideration not totally without merit.
The first day I paddled with it I felt as if it was made for me. The boat makes you feel comfortable, I paddled with the Peconic Paddlers and the owner of the shop was impressed by it. I had six people test paddle the boat and they all loved it. I have since taken it on many trips and it still is a pleasure to use, it turns as stated and cutting through the wakes is easy even rough water it shined. The craftsmanship is superb I thought I would have to cushion the seat... it's more comfortable than my Pungo. I only have two complaints:
#1 at 17'2" it is a chore to put on my Toyota Tundra Cab (any boat would be)
#2 The season is almost over...
This is my first composite kayak and after 6 years in a Dagger rotomold , I am really really pleased with this boat. The attention to detail, the super hatch covers and just the over all feel and look of the craft has totally renewed my interest in kayaking. Do yourself a favor. Seriously give this boat or it's sisters a look see!! You won't go wrong!
We've been thoroughly delighted with our choice. The NC's have remarkable tracking ability (without external rudder or skeg), nimble action and they rarely weathercock. Our kayak instructor (who paddles a Necky) tried our boats and was impressed with the lightness, speed and stability.
By purchasing direct from Greg and the guys at NC in Tacoma, you achieve pricing that can't be touched by mfgrs who go through dealers. The dealer's margin is yours. Greg at NC was fabulous to deal with. I couldn't make it down to Tacoma to pick-up our finished boats, so he drove them to us in Bellingham.
The finish on the boats is beautiful. Greg allowed us to select custom colors, with two-tone fades. Everyone comments on the striking appearance.
I've since tried other fiberglass and Kevlar boats (most at nearly twice the price). All have noteworthy merits, but I wouldn't trade our NC's for any of them.
I don't consider myself an expert, but I'd recommend these kayaks to anyone. They are a remarkable deal for a top-tier boat, and the people at NC are solid straight-shooters.
My NC17 is used as my day use or short duration kayak (up to 3 days ). It is extremely quick and effortless to paddle. It is responsive like no other kayak, with great stability. It tracks well and holds its course even in high wind and wave conditions. When put into its secondary, it will turn 180 degrees within its own length. Extremely impressive boat. I would recommend this kayak to anyone looking for quality, performance and pricing unmatched anywhere in the marketplace. Definitely a great kayak!!!
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